[lbo-talk] lbo-talk Digest, Vol 930, Issue 1

Jim Straub rustbeltjacobin at gmail.com
Mon Jul 20 10:00:26 PDT 2009


Aha, but there are also vast differences between Appalachia and the Appalachian trail.

Other than good old fashioned list bickering, whats the point of this? FWIW, my experience has always been that americans, in comparison to other industrialized societies, are not well-traveled in their country or others. *Especially* in other countries- whenever I'm overseas somewhere, you run into a fair number of backpackers, expats and travellers from europe, austrailia, israel and increasing east asia--- but almost no yanks, ever.

Even at home, too. A lot of the people I went to high school with have only ever travelled to vacation destinations. This is not all that strange or terrible a thing, altho I do think there's a relationship between americans' lack of travel, and their relatively provincial nationalism and incuriosity/lack of empathy for other peoples. But I think the travel thing is much more symptom than cause.

Of course there are always subcultural exceptions to the rule. In my early twenties I spent most of my time as a member of a strange sub-niche of punks called 'traveller kids', who do basically nothing but train-hop, hitch-hike and otherwise travel all over this country and the world, non-stop year-round. The current slang term (among older, grumpier punks like I am now) for these traveller kids is 'oogles'--- a derisive terms to refer to drunkpunk trainhoppers who always want to crash at your house, eat your food, clog your toilet, etc. They're a huge seasonal infestation in Brooklyn, New Orleans, Austin, Minneapolis, and the west coast.

There was an article in the post the other day about how Oogles are ruining williamsburgh.


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> But there are profound differences between New York, LA, and Houston,
> and parts of the Appalachian trail, small towns of 10,000 people or
> less that are more than 100 miles from population centers like those
> three, etc.
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> You really don't know when to stop digging, do you?
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