Yes, they do procede from consciousness, or rather experience, or being-themselves (the word "consciousness" implies a subject-object dualism that I would rather avoid). They just don't know that they do. They procede from the world as experienced by them, from a vantage point.
Otherwise, they would have to leap out of their own consciousnesses (or experience, or being-themselves), which is impossible, because they are it. That is why Kant is right (in essence, if not on every point).
It's also why empiricist materialism is logically self-contradictory, as experience is inherently ideal.
--- On Tue, 7/28/09, Chuck Grimes <cgrimes at rawbw.com> wrote:
>
> Of course there is. Aristotle does not procede from
> conscieousness and
> neither do the pre-socratics, and of course neither do the
> mathematical idealists of any age. The centrality of
> conscieousness
> proceeds from the age of the individual or the Cartisians
> or what
> Jonathan Isreal calls the Radical Enlightenment...