[lbo-talk] it's over - now the destruction really begins

[Mark Bennett]

The exact passage, as translated by Ben Fowkes in the Penguin Classics
Edition (p. 92) reads: "I do not by any means depict the capitalist and the
landowner in rosy colors.  But individuals are dealt with here only in so
far as they are the personifications of economic categories, the bearers [*
Trager*] of particular class-relations and interests."   I came across this
passage only last night, as I thought that this is as good a time as any to
re-read *Capital Vol. I.*  Continuing through the various prefaces and
postfaces, I found that the postface to the second edition closes with this
timely pronouncement:

"The fact that the movement of capitalist society is full of contradictions
impresses itself most strikingly on the practical bourgeois in the changes
of the periodic cycle through which modern industry passes, the summit of
which is the general crisis.  That crisis is once again approaching,
although as yet it is only in its preliminary stages, and by the
universality of its field of action and intensity of its impact it will drum
dialectics even into the heads of the upstarts in charge of the new
Holy-Prussian-German Empire."  (p. 103.)

The old fella was on to something.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:08 PM, andie nachgeborenen <
andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com> wrote:


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> Who's talking about conscious or even unconscious motivation as much as
> systematic tendencies and effects? KM is the _last_ guy to be interested in
> motivation. "I in no sense paint the capitalist coluer de rose, but in this
> work (Capital I) he is merely a bearer of social relation." (Close
> paraphrase.)
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> --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > From: Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] it's over - now the destruction really begins
> > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 8:36 PM
> > I doubt any of this ever entered Hitler's head. Anyway,
> > didn't Britain and the US and USSR and France try to
> > avoid the war as much as possible? Chamberlain wasn't
> > thinking "yeah, war! now we get to destroy stuff!"
> >
> > --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Charles Brown
> > <cdb1003 at prodigy.net> wrote:
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> > > From: Charles Brown <cdb1003 at prodigy.net>
> > > Subject: [lbo-talk] it's over - now the
> > destruction really begins
> > > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > > Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 9:26 PM
> > > CB: Maybe  the idea is that war can be one form
> > > of creative destruction and depression
> > > is another; not so much that depression
> > > causes war ? A depression is a
> > > devalorization itself.
> > > Great Depression was devalorization.
> > > WWII was revalorization for the US,
> > > and further devalorization (creative destruction)
> > >  for Europe.
> > >
> > > War also is a way to pit the workers
> > > of different nations against each
> > > other to avoid revolution within a nation.
> > > Thus the Bolsheviks opposed the war
> > > adamently, and criticized the German
> > > Social Democrats.
> > > It back fired in Russia in WWI 'cause
> > > they had Bolsheviks.
> > > US Cold War and hot wars in
> > > the same period had this motive
> > > especially.
> > >
> > > Also, post WWII imperialist wars were to
> > > open markets or reopen markets in
> > > former colonies and semi-colonies.
> > >
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