On Nov 5, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Doug Henwood wrote:
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> ...On what basis do you value democracy? The American founding
> fathers saw it as some kind of gift from god...
The error here could not be more total. The "American founding fathers" one and all hated democracy for good ruling class reasons, they were very explicit about that, and they made absolutely sure that neither the word nor the concept appear in their Constitution and Declaration. Even the Bill of Democratic Rights that they were forced to accept (in words only) includes no mention of democracy.
Shane Mage
> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos