> If they do work, then witches are real, in which case Ted's argument just fell apart entirely.
Fine by me. I'm not smart enough to know what the hell you guys are talking about, but I do know that any argument mixing factual claims and moral judgments, failing to distinguish between them, and acting as if they were of equal merit, is an argument that deserves to fall apart.
-- "Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað."