[lbo-talk] Berube

shag carpet bomb shag at cleandraws.com
Sat Nov 28 05:16:10 PST 2009


you could have just looked at your own archives. berube and perrin had it out already, part of it occurred here.

follow the thread: http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/2006/2006-July/013882.html

http://www.michaelberube.com/index.php/weblog/a_simple_request/

At 08:58 PM 11/27/2009, Doug Henwood wrote:
>The name of MIchael Berube came up here recently. This just in from
>Lou Proyect:
>
>>Skimming through Michael Berube's newly published Eustonesque
>>manifesto "The Left at War", I stumbled across a reference to yours
>>truly in chapter one. The good professor grouped me with 9/11
>>truthers and Bob Avakian, as people not worth his while to attack.
>>The book, you see, was going after bigger game, like Noam Chomsky,
>>Edward Herman and other enemies of humane, liberal values. It
>>appears that I didn't rate, because I was just an Internet phenomenon:
>>
>>Likewise, if I wanted to engage with the divagations [a fancy word
>>for ramblings] of the radical left online, I would include figures
>>like Louis Proyect, a Columbia University computer programmer whose
>>name is well known to far-left listservs and blogs, and who is
>>capable of writing things like, "To the credit of the late Slobodan
>>Milosevic and to Saddam Hussein, who now is on trial for his life in
>>another kangaroo court, they never bowed down. In life and in death,
>>these imperfect men will always remind us of the need to resist the
>>injustice perpetrated by states acting out of perfect evil. "
>>
>>The words were my conclusion to an article in Swans titled The
>>Demonization And Death Of Slobodan Milosevic that I certainly stand
>>by. In keeping with this put-down and subsequent railings against
>>Chomsky, Edward Herman and Diana Johnstone, you will not find any
>>substance to Berube's complaint, which usually takes the form of a
>>sputtering "how dare they!" Since so much of the book is a diatribe
>>about positions the left took on Yugoslavia, one would hope that the
>>good professor might have taken the trouble to explain how critics
>>of NATO's war were wrong either on the facts or logic. But such
>>matters do not interest him. He is much more at home in the ethereal
>>realm of morality and global governance pirouetting with the angels.
>>
>>read full article:
>>http://louisproyect.wordpress.com/2009/11/27/michael-berubes-war-on-the-left/
>
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