[lbo-talk] the European Left, they dead

ken hanly northsunm at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 1 09:55:56 PDT 2009


Why is the European left supposed to be dead? Rather it would seem that the old sellout left Social Democrats are losing strength but support is going to the Linke and the Greens.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/17/german-elections-die-linke-party

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/what-shift-to-the-right-in-europe-2009-09-30

But the left in Germany remains very strong, commanding nearly half of the electorate -- represented now in three different parties instead of just one. The environmental Greens party supported the center-left government of Schroeder, and got more than 10% of the vote in this last election.

The other new force is the Left party, formed by a splinter faction of the SPD that found the party had moved too far to the center, and the rump Communist Party in East Germany that has survived as a political force in the East German states.

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--- On Wed, 9/30/09, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:


> From: Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] the European Left, they dead
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 2:07 PM
> [WS:] Last year we had a visiting
> scholar from Germany, of a strong leftist
> persuasion.  She was quite surprised to find that
> Marxism was still alive in
> the US academia.  According to her account it was all
> but dead in most Euro
> academic institutions.
>
> I do not want to speak to whether the US is "behind" or
> "ahead" of the curve
> - I think it is different, but that does not imply a
> position in a linear
> development, which I do not think exists.  But the
> fact of the matter is
> that the Left as a political force does not exist anymore
> on any side of the
> pond.  It survived mainly as a cultural identity in
> the US - perhaps because
> the Left did not have any meaningful political power
> here.  Therefore it
> retained the allure of an exotic but forbidden fruit.
>
> In Europe, however, the Left was a victim of its  own
> political success.
> Having succeeded in introducing to the mainstream most of
> its social and
> political agenda it became indistinguishable from other
> mainstream parties
> in terms of policy.  It maintained mainly its cultural
> identity which was
> effectively undermined by the demise of the Eastern
> European communist
> system.  The Left's attempts to reinvent itself atfer
> that blow was
> embracing neo-liberalism.
>
> This resulted in a peculiar paradox of the EU politics: iit
> is the
> righ-leaning (pro-business or nationalist) parties that are
> today the main
> champion of welfare policies that in th epast were
> implemented by the Left.
> And since it is the welfare policies that matter for the
> great majority of
> the population, it is no surprise that the Left is losing
> it spopularity at
> a fast rate.
>
> PS. Google spell checker really sucks.  I have a
> slight motor disorder that
> makes it difficult for me to type (I cannot press keys
> accurately) and I
> heavily depend on spell checking as I type to correct
> typos.  The problem is
> that Google spell checker does not work most of the time
> (it captures only a
> fraction of missspelled words) and I really hate doing a
> spell check after
> composing the text.  Does any one know how to change
> that in Gmail?
>
> Wojtek
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:29 PM, James Heartfield <
> Heartfield at blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Wojtek writes
> >
> > 'The Euro left has been long dead - as political
> identity that is.  Most of
> > what used to be the Left's agenda has long been
> accepted by mainstream and
> > right leaning parties (or I should say pro-business
> parties, as the
> > Left-Right distinction has lost most of its
> meaning.)'
> >
> > Which is definitely the case. I remember a good, if
> cynical article (Martin
> > Seymour Lipset?) about the disappearing problem of
> 'American
> > Exceptionalism'. Responding to political scientists
> who asked the question
> > why there was no socialism in the US, considered the
> exceptional condition,
> > the author looked at the evidence of the decline of
> the left, and argued
> > that it was not that America was exceptional, with the
> implication that
> > sometime, the US would catch up with the rest, but
> that it was ahead of the
> > trend. Like I say, a miserable conclusion, but an
> accurate account of the
> > now (if not the to come).
> >
> > Still, Andy Williams tells me that the US is under
> Marxist-inspired
> > leadership, so there's hope yet.
> >
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