At 09:09 PM 10/2/2009, Bhaskar Sunkara wrote:
>Doug asks:
>
>" Has there ever been a left regime anywhere that you find admirable, even
>in part?"
>
>Carroll I bolded the part of the question that "stunned" me (though I do
>apologize for the hyperbole). And Doug, there are many triumphs of European
>Social Democracy that I can appreciate, even of the welfare state elsewhere,
>the October Revolution, even a few of the gains of the Cuban Revolution. I
>just think it's absurd to say that Chavez isn't an important part of the
>world capitalist economy. It is also a shame that people don't recognize
>that portions of the bourgeoisie have benefited enormously from Chavez's
>reign.
>
>On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 8:28 PM, <dredmond at efn.org> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, October 1, 2009 2:21 pm, Eric Beck wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 4:00 PM, <dredmond at efn.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I think it's deeply important for a world political leader to raise the
> > >> issue of Empire and colonialism in 2009.
> > >
> > > I think it's more important for people who oppose Empire and
> > > colonialism to investigate how all world leaders, even and maybe
> > especially
> > > those who criticize Empire and colonialism, contribute to and help
> > > perpetuate the worldwide capitalist market and its exploiting labor
> > > regimes and violent enforcement.
> >
> > Leaders and governments are only a small part of the historical process.
> > Social movements, juridical institutions, power-relations, economic
> > structures, gender, ethnicity, and a thousand other things are in play,
> > too. So by "thinking colonialism", I don't mean sterile denunciations of
> > how the Brits, French, or US authorities committed X atrocity on Y
> > territory in Z time-frame, I mean grasping this history in its full
> > complexity.
> >
> > -- DRR
> >
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