[lbo-talk] Kaplan: How empires get stuck in the shit

Michael Pollak mpollak at panix.com
Thu Oct 8 05:48:36 PDT 2009


[I normally avoid Kaplan with extreme prejudice. He takes geostrategy to a whole new level of fairy-tale chess. Not to mention hysteria; the man seems never to have met a country that wasn't tottering on the edge of collapse. But still and all, his comments at the end of this article about how empires collapse seems right on the money about both the dynamics and (somewhat inadvertantly) about the ideology: that even when they can see its a mug's game they feel compelled to go on because a non-imperial world order is literally inconceivable to them.]

[And lastly because even from an hysterical imperialist's point of view, more troops in Afghanistan seems crazy.]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/07/opinion/07kaplan.html

The New York Times

October 7, 2009

Op-Ed Contributor

Beijings Afghan Gamble

By ROBERT D. KAPLAN

<snip>

Bottom line: China will find a way to benefit no matter what the United

States does in Afghanistan. But it probably benefits more if we stay

and add troops to the fight. The same goes for Russia. Because of

continuing unrest in the Islamic southern tier of the former Soviet

Union, Moscow has an interest in America stabilizing Afghanistan

(though it would take a certain psychological pleasure from a

humiliating American withdrawal).

In nuts-and-bolts terms, if we stay in Afghanistan and eventually

succeed, other countries will benefit more than we will. China, India

and Russia are all Asian powers, geographically proximate to

Afghanistan and better able, therefore, to garner practical advantages

from any stability our armed forces would make possible.

Everyone keeps saying that America is not an empire, but our military

finds itself in the sort of situation that was mighty familiar to

empires like that of ancient Rome and 19th-century Britain: struggling

in a far-off corner of the world to exact revenge, to put down the

fires of rebellion, and to restore civilized order. Meanwhile, other

rising and resurgent powers wait patiently in the wings, free-riding on

the public good we offer. This is exactly how an empire declines, by

allowing others to take advantage of its own exertions.

Of course, one could make an excellent case that an ignominious

withdrawal from Afghanistan is precisely what would lead to our

decline, by demoralizing our military, signaling to our friends

worldwide that we cannot be counted on and demonstrating that our

enemies have greater resolve than we do. That is why we have no choice

in Afghanistan but to add troops and continue to fight.

But as much as we hone our counterinsurgency skills and develop assets

for the "long war," history would suggest that over time we can more

easily preserve our standing in the world by using naval and air power

from a distance when intervening abroad. Afghanistan should be the very

last place where we are a land-based meddler, caught up in internal

Islamic conflict, helping the strategic ambitions of the Chinese and

others.

Robert D. Kaplan is a senior fellow at the Center for a New American

Security and a correspondent for The Atlantic.



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