>On Oct 28, 2009, at 9:31 PM, shag carpet bomb wrote:
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>>all of which illustrates what charles has been saying about the
>>promise of an obama presidency no? between these two reports and the
>>survey, it's exactly what the obama supporters were hoping for
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>Huh? Delusions of socialism among the lunatic Republican base is
>exactly what the Obama supporters were hoping for? Why?
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this, below, as well as the hope that racial tensions would dissipate. I vaguely recall charles and julio both talking about feeling that, if whites demonstrated support for obama during the election, it would go a long way toward easing up on those tensions. To see folks moving away from the ideas of the republican base was the goal that they were hoping to attribute to an obama election.
== These groups, comprised of older, white, non- college independents and weak partisans, represent some of the most conservative swing voters in the electorate, and they demonstrated a wholly different worldview from Republican base voters by dismissing the fear of "socialism" and evaluating Obama in very different terms. Most impor- tantly, regardless of their personal feelings toward Obama or how they voted in 2008, they very much want to see him succeed because they believe the country desperately needs the change he promised in his campaign. Though we kept discussion points constant between the two sets of groups, on virtually every point of discussion around President Obama and the major issues fac- ing our country, these two audiences simply saw the world in fundamentally different ways underscoring the extreme disconnect of the conservative Republican base voters....