[lbo-talk] gore vidal is an old, cranky prick

Alan Rudy alan.rudy at gmail.com
Sat Oct 31 06:14:46 PDT 2009


being dialectical, this circuit never stops... since the ruling ideas of an epoch are the ideas of that epoch's ruling class it more than could be that the neuroses and ideologies of that class rule as well, making for personal psychoses rooted in significant part in social contradiction...

On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 8:58 AM, Ted Winslow <egwinslow at rogers.com> wrote:


> Carrol Cox wrote:
>
> But there is not one iota of excuse for the gross stupidity that one can
>> judge the validity of a propositon by a characterization of the person
>> who prnounces it. It is either gross ignorance to do so or a serious
>> psychological problem if one is unable to consider a proposition in
>> abstractin fromt personality.
>>
>
> You can, though, do what you're doing here, i.e. explain, having shown on
> rational grounds that an ad hominem argument is mistaken, persistence in ad
> hominem as an expression of a "psychological problem".
>
> This you will be required to do if you want to explain the most recent
> financial crisis.
>
> You will need to explain, for instance, the particular individual David
> Li's misidentification of a rational method for measuring the risk of
> correlated default with a mathematical formula based on the premise that
> existing market prices already embodied such a method. Then you will have
> to explain why the "quant" mentality dominant in financial derivative
> markets unreasonably embraced the formula as a measure of the actual risk.
>
> This had the result that the risk of correlated default on mortgage backed
> securities on which correlated default was practically certain was judged to
> be close to non-existent which led, in turn, to the explosive growth both of
> these securities and of "insurance" against their default.
>
> So a "serious psychological problem" of "particular people" played a key
> role in generating the conditions from which the crisis emerged when the
> practically certain correlated default actually occurred.
>
> Ted
>
>
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