Apparently we still haven't reached the intellectual stage where we're secure enough to admit that in fact we don't know WTF "underlies" reality, if putting it in such as way is even meaningful. I think words like materialism simply represent the point philosophers give up and decide to end the investigations--for a long time "god" served this purpose.
> Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 06:44:50 -0700
> From: lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Materialism is a form of idealism
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> Materialism is not the belief in objective reality. Everybody believes in objective reality except the utter solipsist, of which in philosophy there are none. Platonic Forms are an objective reality. Absolute Spirit is an objective reality. Not even Berkeley believed there was no objective reality (in his case, God). Materialism is the belief that what underlies objective reality is matter (whatever that is), as opposed to idealism, the belief that what underlies objective reality is idea (whatever that is).
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> --- On Sat, 9/5/09, RicardoStarkey at aol.com <RicardoStarkey at aol.com> wrote:
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> > From: RicardoStarkey at aol.com <RicardoStarkey at aol.com>
> > Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Materialism is a form of idealism
> > To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> > Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 2:02 AM
> > In a message dated 9/4/2009 2:16:53
> > P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> > cb31450 at gmail.com
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> > "Materialism is the belief in the existence
> > of objective reality."
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> > Here is a small portion of the definition of
> > "materialism," from
> > _Dictionary of Philosophy_ (International Publishers,
> > New York, 1984):
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