[lbo-talk] illegals won't be able to "buy" coverage

Anthony Kennerson anthonyk6319 at gmail.com
Fri Sep 11 19:51:35 PDT 2009


Interesting, that...because both Baucus and Conrad over at the Senate Banking Committee basically said this morning that they would place an explicit citizenry test into any HCR bill regarding "illegal" involvement in the "exchange". Quoting directly from a TIME article:

----------------------------------------------------------------- The controversy over Republican Representative Joe Wilson's shouting "You lie!" at the President over his claim that illegal immigrants wouldn't benefit from health-care reform apparently sparked some reconsideration of the relevant language. "We really thought we'd resolved this question of people who are here illegally, but as we reflected on the President's speech last night, we wanted to go back and drill down again," said Senator Kent Conrad, one of the Democrats in the talks after a meeting Thursday morning. Later that afternoon, Baucus said the group would add a proof-of-citizenship requirement for participation in the new health exchange — a move likely to inflame the left.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1921713,00.html?xid=rss-topstories

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Since Obama and the Dems have basically thrown every other progressive citizenry under the bus, why not also the undocumented, too?

I guess that they think that the Latin@ vote is a given, too, right?? Especially with the likes of Tancredo and Buchanan and "Wrong Way/Big Lie" Wilson repping the GOP, who would care if they screw poor Latin@ immigrants, too?

If the Peace and Freedom Party ever open a Louisiana office, then I am there in a heartbeat. And I'm already a Green Party member. Democrats have lost me forever.

Anthony

---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com>
> To: lbo-talk <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
> Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:51:11 -0400
> Subject: [lbo-talk] WH: illegals won't be able to *buy* coverage
> These guys suck more every day - a position worse than the Senate Finance
> Committee's:
>
> <
> http://prescriptions.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/11/illegal-immigrants-could-not-buy-insurance-on-new-exchange-white-house-says/
> >
>
> Illegal Immigrants Could Not Buy Insurance on New ‘Exchange,’ White House
> Says
> By DAVID M. HERSZENHORN
>
> The White House on Friday said it would bar illegal immigrants from
> purchasing health coverage through a proposed insurance marketplace. But the
> administration also said that the federal government would continue to
> require hospitals to provide emergency treatment to illegal immigrants at
> taxpayer expense.
>
> The question of how illegal immigrants would fare under a proposed overhaul
> of the health care system came into sharp focus on Wednesday during
> President Obama’s speech to Congress. Representative Joe Wilson, Republican
> of South Carolina, shouted “You lie!” when Mr. Obama insisted that his
> health care overhaul would not insure illegal immigrants.
>
> And the Obama administration’s determination to show that immigrants will
> not benefit from the health system overhaul highlighted the extraordinary
> sensitivity to the issue at a time when lawmakers still remain divided over
> whether the government should pay to provide health coverage for all
> American citizens.
>
> A White House spokesman, Reid Cherlin, said that the president’s proposals
> would bar illegal immigrants from purchasing private insurance through the
> new government marketplace, known as an exchange, and that verification of
> immigration status would be required for anyone seeking to purchase
> coverage.
>
> Although Mr. Obama in his speech referred to his “plan,” the White House
> has not developed a written legislative health care proposal and does not
> intend to do so, instead relying on committees in Congress, which have
> drafted several versions of the bill, some running more than 1,000 pages.
>
> Mr. Cherlin said the White House was considering various enforcement
> options, including the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements
> program, which states now use to prevent illegal immigrants from accessing
> government aid programs for which they are not eligible.
>
> The White House said that illegal immigrants would still be able to
> purchase health insurance through the private market, as they can now, but
> acknowledged that the private market was certain to shrink after the
> creation of the new marketplace.
>
> Many illegal immigrants must now seek medical treatment in emergency rooms,
> which by law cannot turn them away. In recent years, the federal government
> has spent $250 million a year to reimburse hospitals for bills that go
> unpaid as a result. The White House said those reimbursements would
> continue.
>
> A draft of the health care legislation approved by the House Energy and
> Commerce Committee would allow illegal immigrants to purchase insurance
> through the new marketplace, but would bar them from obtaining government
> subsidies to help low-income individuals and families afford coverage.
>
> Under that House bill, illegal immigrants would not be subject to a new
> requirement that all Americans purchase health insurance. Some non-citizens
> legally residing in the United States would be required to purchase health
> insurance, but they would be barred from obtaining subsidies even if their
> income were low enough to otherwise meet the eligibility requirements.
>
> Senators who have been negotiating a compromise health care bill in the
> Senate Finance Committee said on Friday that they were contemplating steps
> to prevent illegal immigrants from benefiting from the health system
> overhaul, but some aides said they did not believe lawmakers intended to bar
> illegal immigrants from purchasing insurance at full cost, through the new
> exchange or otherwise, should they be able to do so.
>
> The White House position could draw a backlash from advocates for
> immigrants.
>



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