[lbo-talk] Back Again/Obamacare & Afghanistan

[wrobert at uci.edu]

It seems that the problem is that its really hard to see voting as a small
tactical act within a larger political field for us (the us here is
referencing the broad 10-15% of the population within what might be called
a social democratic continuum, people who make up a tendency, not a
movement) Voting isn't the problem, but thinking that voting will solve
anything of substance is.  robert wood
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>
> When will progressives ever learn? I bet a lot
> of people here think that Carrol Cox is talking
> through his hat when he calls the Democratic
> Party the greatest obstacle to progressive
> social change in this country.  But an
> examination of the history of the DP over
> the past 120 years or so, I think, bears
> hims out on this point.  The old adage
> that the Democratic Party is the place
> that social movements go to die is as
> true now as it ever was.  The
> only times that Democratic presidents
> have ever pushed through significant
> progressive legislation were those
> times when there were strong social
> movements (i.e. the labor movement
> in the 1930s, the civil rights, antiwar,
> and student movements in the 1960s),
> which at the time was not completely
> captive to the Democratic Party.
> At almost every other period when
> Democratic presidents have been
> elected they have proven to be
> great disappointments for progressives
> (i.e. Grover Cleaveland, Woodrow
> Wilson, Harry Truman, JFK,
> Bill Clinton, and now BO).
>
> Jim F.
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