[lbo-talk] Conservatism

farmelantj at juno.com farmelantj at juno.com
Tue Sep 15 05:08:29 PDT 2009


Hayek once famously wrote an essay, "Why I am not a Conservative" (http://www.fahayek.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=46)

which delineated the differences between his "Manchester liberalism" and traditionalist conservatism. Nevertheless, in his later years, he seems to have become more respectful of Burkean-type conservatism. One factor in this shift was his embracing of a selectionist view of social evolution, which bore a close resemblance to the evolutionary epistemology of his friend, Karl Popper. (All this in turn bares a close resemblance to the memetics that has been popularized by Richard Dawkins, Susan Backmore, and Dan Dennett). On the other hand, it should be noted that selectionist models of social evolution are not necessarily conservative, as in the case of the selectionist interpretations of historical materialism developed, starting with the late Jerry Cohen, and developed further in the writings of Alan Carling and Paul Nolan.

See: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/pipermail/marxism-thaxis/2006-February/019964.html

I also agree with Jim Heartfield concerning the conservative roots of socialism, and even of Marxism. There is even a book, written some 35 years ago,*Marx and Burke: a revisionist view*, by Ruth A. Bevan, which makes the case that there is a closer resemblance between Marx's thought and Burke's, despite the fact Marx was quite scornful of Burke.

Jim Farmelant ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "James Heartfield" <Heartfield at blueyonder.co.uk> To: <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org> Subject: [lbo-talk] Conservatism Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:14:47 +0100

Jim F. writes "Bill Buckley and...National Review pretty self-consciously attempted to blend ...traditionalist conservatism...with what may be described as Manchester liberalism ... associated with people like Friedrich Hayek, Ludwig von Mises, and Milton Friedman."

Yes, and that's not completely daft. Intellectually the market liberalism seems to be made of very different stuff from authority, deference and tradition, so that intellectually the mix looks like a dog's breakfast. But in fact, of course, the transient element - trade - has to be undergirded by tradition (law, respect for property and so on). When you start to push the ideology hard, it all comes to bits, like when the free marketeers start saying liberalise the drugs trade. But a true conservative would understand that you should not think too hard about those things, because conservatism, according to its wisest proponents, is not an intellectual but an intuitive proposition. Neoliberalism had legs, but intellectually speaking it was the death of conservatism, by its constant thinking out of problems that were better left unsaid. The later Hayek is quite blunt on the anti-rational and traditional foundations of his philosophy (though insiders say the Fatal Conceit was re!

ally written by his editor W.W. Bartley), which seems surprising when you compare it to the pompously rationalistic critique of socialism.

Just to draw out another paradox, the free market people are right when they say Socialism owes much of its intellectual roots to Conservatism. English socialists were very close - Ruskin's Unto this Last was required reading for all, though it was feudalistic mumbo-jumbo. Marx and Engels were both keen readers of Carlyle (whose essay on Chartism sets out the essential argument of Marx's critique of liberal democracy before Marx does) - and of course their great inspiration in Germany, Hegel was reconciling liberal and conservative thought, with a philosophy that embraced both the liberal atomism, and the conservative wholism as different moments in the forward movement of Spirit.

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