[lbo-talk] Conservatism

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Tue Sep 15 11:19:29 PDT 2009


See also Michael Lowey on romantic anti-capitalism. Eugene Genovese used to emphasize the similarities of the critiques of capitalism by radicals and reactionaries, before he went from being a radical to being a reactionary.

--- On Tue, 9/15/09, Mike Beggs <mikejbeggs at gmail.com> wrote:


> From: Mike Beggs <mikejbeggs at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Conservatism
> To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date: Tuesday, September 15, 2009, 5:13 AM
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:14 PM,
> James Heartfield
> <Heartfield at blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Just to draw out another paradox, the free market
> people are right when they say Socialism owes much of its
> intellectual roots to Conservatism. English socialists were
> very close - Ruskin's Unto this Last was required reading
> for all, though it was feudalistic mumbo-jumbo. Marx and
> Engels were both keen readers of Carlyle (whose essay on
> Chartism sets out the essential argument of Marx's critique
> of liberal democracy before Marx does) - and of course their
> great inspiration in Germany, Hegel was reconciling liberal
> and conservative thought, with a philosophy that embraced
> both the liberal atomism, and the conservative wholism as
> different moments in the forward movement of Spirit.
>
> Yeah - Raymond Williams' Culture and Society is all about
> this (in
> English history, not so much the Hegel).
>
> Cheers,
> Mike
>
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