[lbo-talk] Sarkozy proposes measuring 'happiness' and 'well-being'to replace the 'cult of the market'
mart
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Wed Sep 23 07:51:59 PDT 2009
i'd say you have a point, or got it right. Its like that issue with 'mental illness' that was discussed on this list (with reference i think to a book by kennealy). When is one person's style, behavior strategy, or communication approach 'unhelpful' either to them, the larger community, or some larger project? I could probably get diagnosed for ADHD and mild dyslexia, but i view the ADHD as my style----some schools permit people to study using different strategies if they are 'disruptive' rather than medicate them----and in such places they are not 'disruptive'.. (The one value of therapy i think is similar to confession in catholicism----you can spout, and that changes the configuration of the universe, a la Foucault or G H Mead).
There are a few people who write like me, i think. These are possibly jerome keisler in math logic, lawvere and s mclane, and maybe some of the french philosophers or 'pomos' cited by sokal who confuse me, or walter benjamin, wittgenstein, etc. Some people would consider them crazy, but some didnt. I actually like the 'siuationist' tactic----dont make sense, be a joker or clown; don't be a 'serious thinker' ---- just pour water over their head. I think some ancient greeks took this path too (cynicsm, skeptics, etc.)
Unfortunately there's more jobs for 'linear' strategies, and for people who 'make sense' but actually seem 'disciplined and punished' or are 'obediant to authority' and reproduce and serve as gatekeepers for it (whatever they say----basically by ignoring dissidents or ridiculing them.
(For example, I actually saw David Korten once, at an International Forum on Globalization conference, with Nader, Shiva, and others on that platform and/or gravy train. There was one black person there, who got up and said in somewhat street patois that those people were racists, because they made no attempt at outreach. People looked at him like he was crazy---'hey, we put it on the email list--- and he left. Solved that problem (disruptions, racism, etc.) Some APOCS just did this think in more extereme for at a Crimethinc conference----'upset the setup' ).
I looked up foucault and badiou on wikipieda-----pretty interesting characters. I liked that Foucault destroyed all his unpublished papers before he died. That is cool (f-k these m-fers----you aint going to dance on my grave at some Ivy that kicked me off campus.). Badiou mentions a poet from portugal, who he said cvould not be understood in present literary theory.. (now that is special, if true, which seems unlikely----its like a 5th force in physics). He only puvblished one book, and left 27,000 pages unpublished. I guess a 'moderate' approach for the next (say, 'new socialist man' for the pol econ of the 21st) would be to leave almost undecipherable handwritten notes (like the dead sea scrolls) to give the next generation something to do. And they'll have to work for it. Tit for Tat (mutual aid, utilitarianism).
--- On Wed, 9/23/09, Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
From: Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu>
Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Sarkozy proposes measuring 'happiness' and 'well-being'to replace the 'cult of the market'
To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
Date: Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 10:18 AM
mart wrote:
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> --------------not that it matters, but you completely missed my point. i was asking, and i gave an example of how 'words can be weapons'. there's just a lag
And then you rush off into a digression:
(and while i may come across an anti-intyellectual, etc....
And I for one completely lost your point in a swirl of digressions.
It may be, probably is, that my eyesight makes me so slow a reader; but
yu may be confusing others too with your fantastically digressive style,
with all its parenthetical points, etc.
Carrol
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