[lbo-talk] The State (Was: Ralph loves the nice plutocrats)

Shane Mage shmage at pipeline.com
Fri Sep 25 09:12:56 PDT 2009



> Wojtek writes:
>> the idea that state is by definition run by the propertied class
>> is but a
>> Left wing myth that is demonstrably false and does not even deserve
>> to be
>> called "vulgar Marxism" :)

Your strawman. The state (the people forming the repressive apparatus needed to define and enforce laws protecting property), for marxists and in reality, is not "run" by the "[most powerful members of] the propertied class" but by their *employees*. Popular wisdom knows that "he who pays the piper calls the tune." It takes a Sociologist to imagine that the piper calls his own tune.

Shane Mage


> This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it
> always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire,
> kindling in measures and going out in measures."
>
> Herakleitos of Ephesos



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