[lbo-talk] much atwit about twitter

shag carpet bomb shag at cleandraws.com
Fri Sep 25 18:13:32 PDT 2009


is twit another one of those sites that doesn't support itself through ad revs? i'm too lazy to goog it.

meanwhile, i think that this sounds rilly rilly intriquing: the development of the autonomous internet. i suspect facebook is reaching peak - possibly being superceded by this next bit of utopian dreaming. imagine how distributed it will all be!

From: "Paul D. Fernhout" <pdfernhout at kurtz-fernhout.com> Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 16:49:52 -0400 To: Peer-To-Peer Research List <p2presearch at listcultures.org> Subject: Re: [p2p-research] Autonet - an autonomous internet - call

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magius wrote:

>Autonet is a project to create a wireless, global internet that can

>provide more reliability than corporate phone companies by being

>community based and freely licensed.

>

>The cutting off access to The Pirate Bay by BT in the UK (

>http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/251609/bt-blocks-off-pirate-bay.html ) is

>just another sign of the beginning of the end. The fact that the Great

>Firewall of China exists signals that the internet is already obsolete

>and that the Great Firewall of the US is just around the corner. While

>moves against net neutrality began years ago and have been fought,

>nasty laws such as HR4437 and the Total Information Awareness program

>have a way of coming into existence later in the future, slightly

>modified, under different names. The internet as we know it, as a

>place for free exchange of information, as the center of what has been

>called a second 17th century with new ideas, creativity and innovation

>emerging daily, is rapidly coming to an end. We must use these last

>gasps of freedom to route around the disaster and create a truly free

>network.

Just to echo this theme, freedom-of-speech, use it or lose it, something I wrote back in 2000, envisioning something like the OLPC, as a US$100 computer inspired by the Cybiko toy (fixed a few typos):

"[unrev-II] The DKR hardware I'd like to make..."

http://www.dougengelbart.org/colloquium/forum/discussion/0754.html """ ... Imagine what we could have for $1000 by the end of this year [2000] by integrating technology that already exists: ... And a two mile radio range:

http://commerce.motorola.com/consumer/QWhtml/2way_comp.html

(That link is dead, but it was just a generic consumer walkie-talkie.) ... And remember that in five years this entire thing will cost US$100 each. ... Consider a couple of these souped up devices given to each village in Africa. Anyone with $1 billion for true development aid to 500,000 African villages? (This is just the cost of one unfinished dam or one shut down nuclear plant.)

Consider millions of these devices airdropped into Iraq and Yugoslavia -- instead of more expensive cruise missiles! Anybody got $1 billion to spend on ensuring democracy with a true defense against tyranny in those places? (This is probably what the U.S. military spends on gas/oil for a month cruising the area...)

This is like a system I wanted to develop and deploy pre-Y2K just in case... But it still has much value in preparing for any potential (natural, political, economic, biological) disaster, as well as aiding the development of democracy.

It's somewhat like the wearable crystals described in The Skills of Xanadu" by Theodore Sturgeon (available in his book The Golden Helix), although the one thing it lacks is easy self-replication...

Developing and then deploying this sort of device is the sort of thing the UN or a major foundation should fund (if they were on the ball). But luckily, there is hope from toymakers! """

Note that even then I could have told you One Laptop Per Child was a bad model -- one or two computers per village is a better model.

I still feel what might make this idea really take off is to piggy-back this P2P functionality into some cheap mass-produced toy. :-) But netbooks are going there. As are cell phones. In some ways, aspects of this are also more a software problem than a hardware problem, because a lot more use of the existing network can be made than is as a social network of peers (that is the promise of the Social Semantic Desktop idea).

--Paul Fernhout http://www.pdfernhout.net/

At 12:04 PM 9/25/2009, Jeffrey Fisher wrote:
>Twitter now worth $7.14m per character
>
>By Tim Bradshaw in London and David Gelles in San Francisco
>
>Published: September 24 2009 19:37 | Last updated: September 25 2009 04:32
>
>Twitter <http://twitter.com/>is set to secure a $1bn valuation from
>investors before it earns its first substantial revenues after the
>micro-blogging site raised $100m in new funding.
>http://bit.ly/VWxhv
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