[lbo-talk] The State

c b cb31450 at gmail.com
Sun Sep 27 10:16:49 PDT 2009


Somebody:

-clip-. What you describe may be the common left-wing view, influenced in part by Maoism, but it's pretty remote from the vulgar materialist conception of state, in which it acts as the control organ for big capital, which was the original dispute.

^^^^^ CB: Just for clarification, who is it that you or Wojtek or Chris or anyone else here claims has a vulgar materialist, simplistic, instrumentalist conception of the state ? Engels ? Marx ? Lenin ? Marvin ? a strawman ?

Are you (Wojtek or Chris or anyone), saying that the state doesn't act as a "control organ for big capital" AT ALL ? That the state is neutral in the class struggle ? That it is controlled by the working classes ?

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