Jim Davis Ozark Bioregion, USA Planet Gaia
http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/historical-materialism/7346550
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> From: Marv Gandall <marvgandall at videotron.ca>
> To: LBO-Talk <lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 6:58:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] The State (Was: Ralph loves the nice plutocrats)
>
> "Somebody" wrote:
> >
> > Obeidi describes in length how the Libyan regime worked to socialize and
> > education the population in the state ideology, which was a melange of
> > Marxism, Pan-Arabism, and Islamism. How inculcating the Green Book into
> > the minds of the workers is supposed to buttress emerging capitalism is
> > difficult to fathom. The fallacy is that any non-Marxist state pursuing
> > national development is necessarily bourgeois.
> =====================================
> Then perhaps you view the social forces and social relations in Libya as
> "feudal". If not, how would you describe them?
>
> Related question: what about Saudi Arabia or Kuwait, which don't even
> incorporate a modern ideology like "Marxism" in their Islamic curricula? Are
> these essentially "feudal" or "capitalist" states?
>
> Capitalist development in a long process, presided over by states which
> assume many forms, mostly autocratic - a diversified, industrial,
> predominantly urban economy and a liberal democratic political system
> appearing only a very advanced stage. Moreover, these states, even the least
> developed, can't be viewed in isolation from the global capitalist economy
> in which they are today all implicated and whose laws they are obliged to
> follow.
>
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