[lbo-talk] The State (Was: Ralph loves the nice plutocrats)

[wrobert at uci.edu]

Wallerstein does a pretty good job of refuting this notion in his work. 
He notes that counter systemic movements in the periphery have taken two
forms, nationalist and socialist.  Both have succeeded in coming into
power.  Neither have succeeded in changing the basic structure of
accumulation.  In this sense, a nation-state can only start challenging
those rules if it can produce alternate economic circuits.  You can see a
lot of that going on right now.  What it will mean is really up in the
air.  robert wood


> But he (I assume SA and Somebody Somebody are the same person) just listed
> several examples of nonrevolutionary states doing just that.
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> --- On Mon, 9/28/09, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
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>> A revolutionary state could decide that. But given
>> capitalist domination of the campaign finance and lobbying
>> systems, control of the media, and the pervasive "common
>> sense" of the bourgeois order, it's not likely to depart
>> from capitalist laws any time soon.
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