[lbo-talk] Treme as TP porn?

brad bauerly bbauerly at gmail.com
Wed Apr 14 07:04:19 PDT 2010



>Not quite. Too many black folks. Also, there's a diff between an entrepreneur and an artist.


>Joanna
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Of course. I was being polemic (me, no way!). I do find it interesting though how this complicates things (or maybe clears them up). There is a real problem, IMO, with a left that in response to the TP arguments of too much government/socialism argues for more government or defends the bourgeois one we have. I don't think we can understand nor alter the way that Obama has undermined the left the way Doug argues without understanding its relationship to the right. Here we have a nice example of how US politics forces seemingly similar complaints- a state acting against the interests of groups of its citizens resulting in diminishing possibilities for said group to keep its head above economic water- into opposite camps/corners and in the process obfuscates the underlying issues. Imagine if the rural middle income white TP crowd could connect with the urban low income minority group around the issues that they share (Jacobin). I really think there are different ways to understand US politics that could really aid the left. But we remain somewhat stuck in the ideological dichotomies of our bourgeois society.

By artist do you mean just those that produce art or people with artisan skills like indy computer programmers etc..?

Brad



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