[lbo-talk] Fighting NCLB, etc.

Jeffrey Fisher jeff.jfisher at gmail.com
Wed Apr 14 11:24:58 PDT 2010


What Alan said. Thanks to everyone who jumped in, and particularly to Alan himself for his extended and thoughtful reply to Miles.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Alan Rudy <alan.rudy at gmail.com> wrote:


> There are days, like today, when I am immeasurably glad that I am on this
> list.
> Thanks all,
> Alan
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:39 PM, Max Sawicky <sawicky at verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > There's a nice piece in this immortal tome by Rima Shore on how the
> > education accountability movement (sic) came out of the defense
> > industry in the 70s:
> >
> > http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/books_riskybizintro/
> >
> > Metrics of performance ("output") are intrinsic to privatization,
> > since the case for an education market rests in part on the ability to
> > measure output and pay for it, bit by bit. The logic of performance
> > measurement obviates the need for close public regulation, where
> > "close" entails actual public production -- hiring teachers and
> > running schools in this case. (Also discussed in the book by yrs
> > truly) If you can measure you can contract out and economize on
> > administrative costs. In principle it's logical, IF you can measure.
> >
> > An alternative in the same vein, not pursued for reasons obvious to
> > this list, would be teachers running schools and compensated by
> > authorities, like labor-managed firms. Absent firm workers control,
> > the pretense of measurement opens the door to profit-based incentive
> > systems: private management.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Miles Jackson wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm not getting this argument. How is the assessment of student
> > learning
> > >> related in any way to the privatization of education? Assessment
> > doesn't
> > >> require us to bust unions; in fact, if it is driven by unionized
> > teachers,
> > >> then it gives teachers more authority and oversight of the curriculum.
> > >> There must be some implicit links here that I'm not following.
> > >
> > > Have you followed this NCLB and Race to the Top stuff? The whole point
> of
> > > that sort of testing is to fire teachers, bust unions, and close and/or
> > > privatize public schools. Did you notice that our president has joined
> in
> > > the war on teachers' unions?
> > >
> > > Doug
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