> A progressive, on the other hand, is baited - precisely because she
> doesn't see herself as a leftist and feels obliged to renounce leftism
> when baited. Thus, a progressive has no answer because a progressive
> actually believes that leftists are opposed to hard work,
> responsibility, etc.
But you said yourself (and, judging from the discussion in this thread, you were right) that many leftists *are* opposed to hard work, responsibility, etc.
SA