[lbo-talk] Thoughts on the Tea Party (and why the Left is Dead)

shag carpet bomb shag at cleandraws.com
Thu Apr 22 17:37:11 PDT 2010


i think it's a caricature though. as everyone here has said: no one thinks that immiseration, by itself, leads to revolution. thus: no straight line at all.

Marx, on the other hand, has *some* passages that are rife with that sort of analysis. But it's not because he draws a straight line. it's that he was so freakin attached to aristotle, he never shook himself free of Aristotle's Physus.

At 04:27 PM 4/22/2010, Alan Rudy wrote:
>well said.
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>On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Eric Beck <ersatzdog at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > The problem with the catastrophists isn't that they are wrong about
> > immiseration leading to revolution. It's that they think you can draw
> > a straight, consistent, ahistoric line between "objective" economic
> > conditions and "subjective" revolutionary transformation. As if
> > history is ruled by necessity and progress. Most counterarguments,
> > however, do nothing but reverse the polarity, thinking that high
> > levels of prosperity and equality are the requisites for socialism. As
> > far as I know, neither side can predict the future, but both seem to
> > insist that the "objective" is determinative.
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