On Apr 28, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Max Sawicky wrote:
> Don't Islamic fundamentalist views of the U.S. posture re: Islam start
> with the U.S. involvement with Israel/Palestine/Iraq/Saudi
> Arabia/Egypt?
>
> C'mon, give me a hard one.
>
Not knowing any more Arabic than you do, I wouldn't presume to
pontificate on "Islamic fundamentalist views." Whatever they were, it
seems that they didn't let their "fundamentalism" stand in the way of
close cooperation with the US military and intelligence services in
Afghanistan/Pakistan all through the 70's and 80's, and that the same
people (Hekmatyar & co., "moderate" Talibanists) stand in waiting to
participate in the coalition government Obama and McChrystal are
trying to set up. And binLaden (or whoever goes by that name after
its original bearers decease) has always been ready to release an
audiotape whenever Bush or Obama and their CIA find it convenient to
scare people with the AlQaeda scarecrow.
>
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Shane Mage <shmage at pipeline.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 27, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Max Sawicky wrote:
>>>
>>> The narrative of U.S. historic involvement in the ME, the why and
>>> the
>>> how, is too important to be displaced by a bull story.
>>
>> But Afghanistan/Pakistan are not in the ME, that's where US
>> involvement is
>> bloody actual, and that's where US "historic involvement" with
>> "Islamic"
>> terrorism was shaped.
Shane Mage
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