[WS:] No I do not think it was a minor inconvenience back then - it was a major inconvenience at the time when the empire's managers could least afford it, due to foreign pressure. It would probably a major inconvenience today as well, but today the state managers can afford suppressing or drowning it in noise because they do not face the same foreign pressure.
BTW, why don't you American lefties stop navel gazing and see that you are a rather small cog in much bigger world system?
Wojtek
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Dennis Claxton <ddclaxton at earthlink.net>wrote:
> At 10:53 AM 8/25/2010, Wojtek S wrote:
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> you seem to be having a rather simplistic view of the matter.
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> I had the same thought, only about your letter.
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> In the sixties, the hippies & co were few and far between, but their
>> presence
>> was amplified by the main stream media.
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> And you' have uncritically swallowed that media presentation.
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> There are always dissident groups around, shouting their messages to the
>> powers
>> that be.....The managers of the US empire have the capacity to squish any
>> internal dissent and be back for dinner on the same day.
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> You've expressed this dismissiveness many times before but you never get
> into any details. Having accepted the media presentation of "the sixties"
> maybe you don't know a lot of the details.
>
> If you think what was happening on the streets and shop floor was some
> minor inconvenience, then you have to come up with an explanation as to why
> law and order measures that have created the police/carceral component so
> predominant in the U.S. today were first enacted in the late 60s/early 70s.
> What do you think they were responding to?
>
> http://suziweissman.com/?q=node/114
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> [...]
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> Christian Parenti: I chart the rise of the emerging anti-crime police state
> in the United States from the 1960s to the present. The first wave of this
> current buildup that we're experiencing, a wave that starts in the 1960s,
> can be seen in many ways as counterinsurgency by other means.there's no
> better example of this than [Nixon's aide] h.r. haldeman's quote in his
> diary when discussing Nixon's war on drugs: he tells that the president says
> the real issue is the blacks, and the solution is to devise a system of
> control that acknowledges this while not seeming to.that is their
> description of the war on drugs: a way of controlling insurgent populations
> and insurgent neighborhoods. by the 1980s the politics shift to some extent
> because there isn't the same level of insurgency in America that there was
> in the '60s and '70s.It's still very much about class and racial control,
> but not so much about counterinsurgency, not so much about putting down
> insurgent populations as it is managing the contradiction of having this
> huge population of newly immiserated people--who can't be dealt into the
> system, and have to be contained some how--and that's the second part of the
> buildup.keep in mind that the 1960s were marked by massive social upheaval.
> you often look back at that time and think: well, the police won. they
> cracked down on the panthers, they liquidated the leadership of certain
> radical movements, they killed fred hampton--they won.that's true to a
> certain extent, but if you look back at 1967, it didn't really look like
> that. there was a moment there in the mid-to-late '60s when the police were
> actually failing in the eyes of policy elites, those who control the large
> foundations, who sit in government, who control the large universities, the
> police forces.It was clear to them that the cops were messing things up
> through either too much repression (in 1968 when the Chicago cops' actions
> provoked a crisis on the floor of the democratic convention), or too little
> (the beginning of the watts rebellion in 1965, when the police forces didn't
> have the equipment necessary to communicate with each other).This crisis in
> American policing is finally dealt with at a national level starting in
> 1967. And the other thing to remember is that there are hundreds of riots
> every summer from 1965 on. In response, President Johnson initiates
> legislation in 1967 which in 1968 finally becomes law as the Omnibus Crime
> and Safe Streets Act of 1968, passing the House of Representatives literally
> as D.C. is burning.Martin Luther King has just been killed, D.C. goes up in
> flames and Congress has just passed this big federal crime bill. And what
> that federal crime bill does is create the Law Enforcement Assistance
> Administration--this massive bureaucracy which for the next ten years
> redistributes about a billion dollars a year to local law enforcement to
> give the cops all of the things that we associate with the infrastructure of
> modern policing.That's when they first get computers, helicopters, swat
> teams, body armor, shoulder radios. that's when cops for the first time have
> to learn how to read--many of them before that weren't required to know how
> to read--and when American law enforcement takes its great leap forwards, is
> really rationalized and retooled into the form we know it.
>
> SW: You suggest that the police responded to 1965 with a technical
> rationale: in other words there was too little repression, and later in 1968
> there was too much. But what about 1992, when there is a similar rebellion
> in Los Angeles?
>
> CP: Actually you do have, to a certain extent, a similar police response
> (to the first phases of the Watts rebellion), a with-drawal, which is what
> provokes the trigger of the LA riots at Florence and Normandy.But again you
> have a similar federal response. Where does Clinton's 100,000 new cops
> initiative come from? that's a response to 1992. And the crime bill of '94,
> one of the most dramatic crime bills of the last thirty years, is very much
> informed by the specter of la in '92.
>
> SW: Going back to the late '60s and the counterinsurgency methods used,
> which were to use a lot of hardware, a lot of police and paramilitary
> paraphernalia--including SWAT teams--did it provide its own rationale and
> create its own bureaucracy that then had to justify and perpetuate itself?
>
> CP: Yes, definitely. The roots of that self-perpetuating police bureaucracy
> and police `officialdom' connected to and addicted to the gear, takes root
> in the '60s and '70s. but it's embryonic when compared to that kind of
> politics today.You really see that interest group beginning to help push
> policy in earnest in the '80s, when every single police force of any size in
> this country has a swat team, and you have this infrastructure of training
> and conferences to help facilitate a culture among this police officialdom,
> who then push harder and harder for more and more gear.the two crises from
> which i see our current anti-crime police state emerging are, first, the
> crisis of policing and of political obedience and rebellion in the '60s; and
> second, connected but somewhat separate, the beginnings of an economic
> crisis, more specifically a profit crisis.The postwar boom era was the
> rebuilding of Europe and Japan, when U.S. business is in a position to
> really reap the lion's share of those benefits, high profits allow business
> to pay high taxes and pay high wages, and thus you get the golden era of
> american capitalism as sociologists and economists often call it.but that
> starts to play out by the mid '60s and stall by the late '60s. and in the
> early '70s you see profit rates declining because there's finally just too
> much stuff in international markets, too much competition; in other words
> the recovery from world war ii is done.in 1968 general electric, which was
> then the fourth largest employer in the country, notoriously anti-labor,
> faces a massive strike by twelve unions, and the unions win. afterwards ge
> does an analysis and finds that the unions, that the strikers, had not only
> been getting their strike dues but had been collecting welfare--in fact they
> had collected twenty-five million dollars in welfare, so from the point of
> view of general electric's Board of Directors this was state-subsidized
> class warfare.That had to be broken. So that's the solution that emerges
> ideologically in the '70s. But it doesn't really actualize in policy until
> the reagan era. the opening act of the 1980s, which is really the solution
> to the 1970s, is that paul volcker was appointed chairman of the federal
> reserve by carter. then reagan comes in, and together reagan and volcker
> basically engineer the second worst recession since the great depression.the
> idea of this was to discipline and scare working people. I've got quotes to
> that effect in the book... At the same time Reagan goes on a policy
> offensive against the institutional strength of the working class, gutting
> the rights of labor, regulation of corporations, federal spending on
> education, and all of the infrastructures of the social welfare system, like
> AFDC, CETA (Comprehensive Employment Training Act), etc. The best way to
> measure the effect is in 1980 not a single union contract--as had been the
> case since the early 1960s--involved a wage freeze or a wage give-back, but
> in 1982 after two years of bitter recession and a policy offensive, 44% of
> all union contracts involved an outright wage giveback or a wage freeze.This
> redisciplining of American labor helps to rejuvenate profit rates, but
> creates this other problem: the expansion of a new class of poor people, the
> return of mass homelessness.With deindustrialization and the withdrawal of
> municipal services in cities you get this hyper-ghettoization, you have this
> whole problem population which ten years earlier had been in rebellion and
> might rebel again. And even if they don't rebel they cause an aesthetic and
> ideological problem to the system: they can show up in the wrong place at
> the wrong time. capitalism needs the poor, yet is always threatened by
> them.so how does this system manage that problem? basically as machiavelli
> says there are two choices: men will either be treated well or crushed. and
> governing a class society is basically about toggling between those two
> poles. and so what happens is a shift back, away from cooptive, ameliorative
> forms of governance towards good old-fashioned repression.you see beginning
> in the early eighties a re-engagement of the crack-down of the early and mid
> '70s. You get the Reagan era war on drugs.
>
> SW: Which is still with us...
>
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