On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 11:24:04 -0600 "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu> writes:
> I've got a number of other things that are filing my time for some
> days, so
> my first response to Mark will have to be a bit blunt.
>
> Where the fuck do those "values" come from. If you are going to
> argue
> values you have to establish their foundation, and that leads either
> to
> religion or to merely personal grunts of approval and disapproval.
So, is it to safe to say that Carrol is advancing a noncognitivist, if not emotivist, view of esthetic and moral judgments? As I recall, I.A. Richards popularized an emotivist account of esthetic judgments some eighty or ninety years ago. And his account, apparently had some influence on those logical positivists who proposed similar accounts of moral judgments.
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>
> And Eagleton has not a word to say on the politics of mass struggle.
> That's
> why he can wander off into insipid nonsense about what nations
> (capitalist
> nations) base their "politics" on (naked self-interest etc.) That is
> of
> absolutely no interest.
>
> Carrol
>
> Mark Wain: Let me quote Terry Eagleton at length, who, with all of
> his
> limitations (but
> then who doesn't have?) seems to get it right that "The vocabulary
> of
> criticism is for the most part a moral one, with an admixture of
> technical
> or aesthetic terms," "How to Read a Poem," p.28)
>
> "...Not only is (Fredric) Jameson mistaken to believe that all
> ethics
> displaces politics; he also assumes inaccurately that the ethics is
> always a
>
> rigid binary matter of good versus evil. It is an oversimplifying
> account of
>
> a supposedly oversimplifying phenomenon.("After Theory," p.143)
>
>
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