[lbo-talk] Agency and Capitalism

[Miles Jackson]

On 12/30/2010 07:12 PM, Eric Beck wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Miles Jackson<cqmv at pdx.edu>  wrote:
>
>> ...as long as workers continue to be wage workers, yes?  --I suspect this is
>> Carrol's point, but it's good to be explicit!
> A distinction w/out a difference, no? Don't see how you can sustain
> this without recourse to a Hegelian distinction between ideal (work)
> and real (labor).

Nothing Hegelian about it: every day in every society around the world, 
people do work outside the wage system (e.g., household labor).  I see 
no reason for us to accept the capitalist assumption that "real work" = 
"wage labor".  As Carrol has pointed out, the historical aberration is 
people getting paid wages for their work in a capitalist society!

Miles