> It's not just that it's unpredictable, it's that planning things out
> in the detailed way people expect --- like those dudes you don't like
> but Gar does -- puts too many restrictions on your ability to think on
> the ground, quickly, and adapt to exigencies.
I keep getting hung up on this "planning things out" concept. No one is trying to write a plan to be voted on and adopted by an Official Committee of the Left and included in the bylaws and annual resolutions. This is about discussing ideas that people can think about and debate. Always the opponents of talking about socialism refer to it as "predicting," "deciding in advance," "planning," "pre-determined." That has nothing to do with it.
Another question I have: You say people in the movement will work out these issues as they come up, so we shouldn't talk about it now. Okay - how will we know when the issue has come up? At what point exactly does talking about socialism stop being tyrannical "deciding in advance" and start being "responding to issues as they come up." Because clearly the issue has *already* come up - it seems to come up every single time people on the left get together - yet you *still* don't want anybody to talk about it.
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