[lbo-talk] The zen of marx (was clarification)

Lakshmi Rhone lakshmirhone at gmail.com
Tue Feb 16 08:32:11 PST 2010


On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 8:20 AM, SA <s11131978 at gmail.com> wrote:


> Carrol Cox wrote:
>
> But only Marx latches on to the horror of a system
>> that operates wholly independently of human will.
>>
>
> It's worth acknowledging that there is a counterview - that capitalism
> operates independently of human will (to the extent that it does) not
> because it's capitalism but because there's a large-scale division of labor.
> So that any society with a large-scale division of labor will find itself
> vulnerable to processes independent of human will.
>
> SA
>
> No the system operates the way it does as a result of people reacting to
the conditions and social relations that they created and recreate. That we are not always free to act otherwise does not mean that the system operates "wholly independently of human will". A lot of silly things are being said. LR


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