[lbo-talk] NYT: Party Gridlock in Washington Feeds Fear of a DebtCrisis

Chris Doss lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 18 19:20:20 PST 2010


Fasicism is (was) indeed a right-wing movement. It is however a totally dead right-wing movement. There are no fascist movements of any consequence anywhere in the modern world that I know of.

"Fascism" should mean for any rational person the ideology predominant in Italy in the 20s and 30s and various derivatives thereof, that is, the people who called themselves Fascists. This should not be confused with what various people identified (rightly or wrongly) as the CAUSE of Fascism, that is, the fear by the big bourgeousie of a left-wing takeover (strictly speaking, this wouldn't be the cause of fascism, but the cause of its taking power). Many anti-left ideologies could fulfill this role, whether Fascist or not. Marvin seems to be defining "fascism" as "right-wing movement opposed to the left taking power," but this is akin to defining Marxism as "an anticapitalist movement," which is bullshit.

----- Original Message ---- From: Matthias Wasser <matthias.wasser at gmail.com>

Chris said that "'fascist' does not mean 'member of right-wing movement." How on earth are you getting "fascism is not a right-wing movement" from that? Is every right-wing movement the same?

On general principle I stop taking a writer seriously whenever she claims a movement not from the 1930s or claiming direct descendance from such is "fascist." There's such a well-known tendency towards these sorts of claims that even pointing them out is considered cliche. ___________________________________ http://mailman.lbo-talk.org/mailman/listinfo/lbo-talk



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