[lbo-talk] NYT: Party Gridlock in Washington Feeds Fear of a DebtCrisis

Bill Quimby wquimby at embarqmail.com
Fri Feb 19 06:16:33 PST 2010


Agree, Chris - and maybe not only Total State but Total Body, as in Junger's dedication to throwing his (and his people's) body into the fire of World War I. (Interestingly, from what I read Junger was actually far less enthusiastic about Hitler and WW II.)

However, ever since Woody started carrying around that guitar with "This Guitar Kills Fascists" painted on it a new American definition arose. It's almost a syllogism...

This guitar kills Fascists This guitar kills anything it is pointed at Anything this guitar is pointed at is a Fascist.

It is not the correct definition, but in trying to explicate the correct definition one finds oneself fighting a deeply-embedded cultural myth!

- Bill

Chris Doss wrote:
> In this conversation, the term "fascist" is being used in an extremely vague
> sense, a sense that no Fascist in the 1920s and 30s would have recognized.
> "Fascist" does not mean "member of right-wing movement," and I seriously
> doubt that most members of Mussolini's party would have recognized the
> tea-baggers as confreres. Have you guys ever read any actual Fascist writings
> -- Gentille, Mussolini, Junger? I did, because Chapter 2 of my
> never-completed dissertation (on the influence of Heidegger on Arendt) was on
> the Origins of Totalitarianism, in which Arendt spends much time
> distinguishing between different forms of Fascism, and I had to know this
> stuff. It is ideologically very very different from right-wing American
> populism, which is anti-statist, whereas Fascism preached the Total State.
>



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