[lbo-talk] lefty on futbol

[Somebody Somebody]

Carrol: For all such "declinists" I reccomend that they read/reread at least
once a week Chapter 2 of Raymond Williams, _Culture & Society
1780-1950_. Your lineage goes back to the pastoral poets of early Rome
-- about 2500 years and counting.

Somebody: Carrol, this is no different than saying that since catastrophists are always predicting an upcoming depression, and are typically wrong, then it follows that a depression will never occur. Except of course, on occasions, such as today, when they do happen.