[lbo-talk] Why Marx is Right and Engels is Wrong

Shane Mage shmage at pipeline.com
Thu Jul 15 14:09:59 PDT 2010


On Jul 15, 2010, at 4:35 PM, c b wrote:


> In none of these societies did money- mediated exchange play a major
> role. Money was invented by them for the denomination and payment of
> debt over time. Its essential nature was (and still is) as means and
> standard for deferred payment (the words on a dollar bill that define
> it as *money* are "This note is legal tender for all debts public and
> private"). The second major function of commodity-money, as medium of
> exchange, followed and quickly became widespread once its
> debt-denominating function had been securely established with the
> institution of coinage. In inverting the historical sequence Marx and
> Engels were merely repeating Aristotle, but in this, as in many other
> things, Aristotle was just wrong.
>
> Shane Mage
>
> ^^^^^
> CB: Were the exchanges that resulted in debts barters ?

Barter gives rise to no debt.

Shane Mage

The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.

Joe Stack (1956-2010)



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