>> So how does creating serious chaos meet that goal?
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> You will have to ask Obama & his advisors.
So you're saying Obama and his team want chaos?
Dennis' question is a good one, not just because of its immediate content but because it says we should look about what's actually happened rather than at elites' ideologies. Trying to describe what's happened by divining the aims of "US planning" and "central planners" -- which are comically corny phrases in 2010 -- guarantees you end up with a very partial description.