[lbo-talk] Move On: We Betray Ourselves

[shag carpet bomb]

At 07:20 AM 6/28/2010, SA wrote:
>Shag - sorry to backtrack, but I'm confused.
>
>A couple months ago you quoted something your French friend Sylvestre 
>wrote about alliances with "reformist parties":
>
>
>Sylvestre wrote:
>
>>this is voiced also by the leaders of reformist parties. This leads to 
>>the necessity of uniting with them on any possible basis compatible with 
>>advancing the interests of workers, at the same time as keeping 
>>organisationally and politically independent of reformist leaderships
>
>I responded:
>
>>
>>I wonder how many American communists would be willing to speak of "the 
>>necessity of uniting with [the liberal wing of the Democratic Party, 
>>let's say] on any possible basis compatible with advancing the interests 
>>of workers."
>
>
>Then you replied:
>
>>I think, SA, you're mistaking discussions here, which are spaces for 
>>voicing frustration at placards with "Yes we can!" on them and american 
>>flags only rules, with the fact that, in the end, we go to the rally, 
>>participate in the meeting, whatever.... at least that's been my 
>>experience of any pinko-red I've ever known in f2f life.
>
>But now you complain about
>
>>people who think that those on the left who reject voting and alliance 
>>with the DP are unreasonable.
>
>Clarification? Would Sylvestre be one of the people you're complaining about?
>
>SA

*yawn*

wake me up if I start to shit the bed or something.

shag