[lbo-talk] repulsive right-wing press release

[shag carpet bomb]

why do people want to come to the u.s. so badly? not poor folks, that I 
understand. and I sort of understand why folks want to come to the u.s. if 
they're programmers. but why do they end up wanting to stay? yesterday, I 
was having lunch with a friend who I worked with three years ago. He's 
since gone on the live elsewhere. I asked some of his mates at the table, 
"are you programmers too?" To which one replied, "Better to ask Indians if 
they are not programmers," and everyone laughed. (although this doesn't 
comport with my experience, actually. It's more like 50%)

 From everything they say, they come from fairly well-off families at home. 
of course, this could be bragging. My one friend's father is an attorney. 
One brother is running a factory. And yet all of them are or want to be in 
the u.s. Even my close friend, k, who I watched transition from his first 
days in the u.s. to now, three years later, has married and is going 
through the green card process. I recall him being ecstatic once to learn 
that my kid called, asked for money and i responded, "sure, i'm 
transferring it online right now." K was ecstatic because this meant I had, 
to him, Indian values, not u.s. values. there are a ton of things about 
u.s. culture he doesn't appreciate compared to other Indian friends who 
have lots of great things to say about u.s. culture and why they don't want 
to live in India.

what is so great about being here. just the money? sold a bill of goods 
about opportunity?

At 02:03 PM 3/26/2010, Sandy Harris wrote:
>On 3/27/10, Chris Doss <lookoverhere1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > This sounds really dubious? If you have that kind of money
> > lying around, you're probably doing pretty well where you are.
>
>Sounds believable to me.
>
>I'm a Canadian male in China, was in my mid-50s when I
>came. I've had several women, all attractive and in their
>30s, suggest marriage. Some of them offered to pay me.
>It's definitely not my fortune or looks, and I doubt I am
>that charming. Could a visa be the attraction?
>
>I'm in the area where most illegal immigrants come from.
>It is big business. I'm told the going rate to be smuggled
>into the US is a few hundred thousand RMB, $40-70K.