[lbo-talk] More "school reform" nonsense

Max Sawicky sawicky at verizon.net
Tue May 25 11:07:45 PDT 2010


I don't doubt that at all. I'm a great fan of this book:

http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/books_class_and_schools

On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:53 PM, <123hop at comcast.net> wrote:
> I read somewhere that Cuba's reaction to its economic troubles was to double the number of teachers.
>
> The ratio of teachers to students at the secondary level is reputedly 1 to 10.
>
> I am involved with the Oakland Unified School District since my daughter attends public school in Oakland, and I tell thee, the teachers are the least of the problem.
>
> Joanna
>
>
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> From: "Max Sawicky" <sawicky at verizon.net>
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> A younger or new teacher may have more energy and enthusiasm, a senior
> one could be burned out. My wife, may she rest in peace, was one of
> those who came in with little credentials after decades as an
> attorney, but my perception was that she was a very good teacher with
> a motivation advantage over some of the burn-outs in her school.
> (D.C. has trouble hiring teachers so it is possible to get in as a
> 'permanent substitute' and acquire credentials -- via night school
> courses -- while working.)
>
> So you never know.
>
> Of course teacher layoffs are criminally dumb, so it doesn't pay to
> argue over how best to lay off. How to weed out low-performers is a
> good question, one to which I haven't the answer.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Doug Henwood <dhenwood at panix.com> wrote:
>>
>> On May 25, 2010, at 1:00 PM, Chris Maisano wrote:
>>
>>> Wouldn't younger teachers, on average, actually be worse teachers than
>>> veterans because of lack of experience?
>>
>> Yes. Just reading up on this for an LBO article on this crap. Experience
>> does make teachers better. Charters have a serious problem retaining
>> teachers, many of whom not only quit their jobs but also leave the
>> profession. And this isn't weeding out the bad ones - it's that the work is
>> intolerable.
>>
>> Doug
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