[lbo-talk] Query

michael perelman michael.perelman3 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 6 15:14:08 PDT 2010


I don't know much about Hoar. I also like this speach of his:

Hoar, Senator George. 1879. "Speech on Wages and Hours of Labor: United States. Congress." The Congressional Globe (13 December), Volume 27, Part 2, p. 102. http://books.google.com/books?id=vE0uAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA102&dq=%22kindred+between+man+and+man,+growing+out+of+the+common+bond%22&client=firefox-a&cd=1#v=onepage&q=%22kindred%20between%20man%20and%20man%2C%20growing%20out%20of%20the%20common%20bond%22&f=false

partially reprinted in Foner, Philip S. 1975. History of the Labor Movement in the United States. v. i. From Colonial Times to the Founding of the American Federation of labor (NY: International Publishers): p. 317.

"The International Association of European and American Workingmen has this title to respect among others, that it has established among the nations of the world a relation, that it has recognized a kindred [sic] between man and man, growing out of the common bond of labor, greater, more powerful, more binding than any mere national attachment, or than any tie which connects the subject to the sovereign. America is the last nation that ought to be ungrateful for that sublime accomplishment. In the darkest days of our own war, when the governing classes of England would have been glad to have joined the emperor of France in recognition of the southern confederacy, what prevented it was the angry growl from the workingmen of Lancashire, saying to the English Government, "We love the workingmen of North America a great deal better, we are more nearly allied in interest and in feeling to the workingmen of America, than we are to the aristocracy of England; and although we have borne many things from you, one thing we will not bear, that you shall array the power and the might of England against the cause in which those American workingmen are engaged."

On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Somebody Somebody <philos_case at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Carrol,
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> The speech was given by Senator George Frisbie Hoar, Republican from Massachusetts. You can read it in full here:
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> <http://www.bartleby.com/268/10/25.html>
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> Here's a quote:
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> "You have sacrificed nearly ten thousand American lives—the flower of our youth. You have devastated provinces. You have slain uncounted thousands of the people you desire to benefit. You have established reconcentration camps. Your generals are coming home from their harvest bringing sheaves with them, in the shape of other thousands of sick and wounded and insane to drag out miserable lives, wrecked in body and mind. You make the American flag in the eyes of a numerous people the emblem of sacrilege in Christian churches, and of the burning of human dwellings, and of the horror of the water torture."
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> I believe the water torture of which he speaks is none other than the water boarding that the U.S. reintroduced in the last decade.
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