[lbo-talk] Trying to beat an unending virus

Gar Lipow gar.lipow at gmail.com
Tue Nov 9 23:24:51 PST 2010


Even though a rip-off Neilmed works better than Netipot. Most drug stores including target carry it.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 11:19 PM, <123hop at comcast.net> wrote:
> Thanks. I'm already doing the netipot stuff, and it is helping. Also started gargling with salt water. I guess I can do Listerine in the morning too.
>
> I'm just hating this though.
>
> Joanna
>
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> From: "Gar Lipow" <gar.lipow at gmail.com>
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> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:29 PM, <123hop at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Posters and lurkers....
>>
>> ...I have been battling some kind of virus since mid-August.
>>
>> It started as a cold & sinus infection. One week of penicillin ended the sinus infection, but something sinusy has been continuing since then with intermittent stuffiness, sniffles, mild headaches, fatigue, etc.
>>
>> Though energy is getting better, sniffles diminishing, headaches waning....it still nibbles at the edges, causing havoc in many different ways: last week it was conjunctivitis (pink eye), which is kinda responding to antibiotic eyedrops, but is not totally gone. Also, ulcery stuff. The sinusy stuff comes and it goes, wrecking something different each time it reappears.
>>
>> Went to the doctor who said: ears clear, lungs clear, blood tests OK....it's viral; nothing we can do about it.
>>
>> Went to the acupuncturist who said, you're not really sick; you're just tired.
>>
>> I'm getting so frustrated with this, I could scream.
>>
>> I have some flunase (steroid nose stuff) I could use to dry out sinuses and see if all this secondary bacterial stuff goes away.
>>
>> Otherwise....anyone out there have any experience with this? I do get mild allergies...but these wouldn't normally be accompanied by secondary infections.....right?
>>
>> Sigh,
>>
>> Joanna
> OK I have a friend to who does the following to nuke persistant colds
> from orbit:
>
> 1) for nose and sinus
> You might pick up Neilmed saline solution bottles. Like neti pots only
> more volume. Overpriced but not easy to duplicate. Basically just a
> plastic squeeze bottle sized to put a high volume of saline solution
> from one nostril to another. Washes the stuff out of the sinuses
> better than either standard saline solution or even standard neti
> pots. The "patent" saline solution is just a standard mixture of
> baking soda and salt like earnosethroad people recommended for years.
> But for prolonged one time use, that is daily use for a few weeks or a
> month, probably better just to buy the $25 commercial product.
>
> 2) For ears hydrogen peroxide in each ear. Google to find out how to
> do this effectively.
>
> 3) Gargle with listerine - 60 seconds instead of 30 if you can stand it.
>
> Don't guarantee that this won't kill you. I do the Neilmed and
> listerine myself, but never tried the peroxide in ear. I understand
> that if you have harded wax in your ears peroxide can cause real
> problems. I think some people use olive oil to soften wax first.
> Again this part I have not tried.
>
> The idea is that by applying antiseptics to mouth and throat, nose and
> sinuses, plus ears, you are killing bacteria and some viruses and also
> washing out them out so your body has fewer to fight. The flonase
> reduces inflamation but this other stuff washes some of the viruses
> out and kills others. Not a doctors and could be totally quack stuff.
> On the other hand the Neilmed was reccomended to me by an
> earnosethroat specialists, and the listerine works for me when
> starting to get sore throat. And I have friends who swear by the
> hydrogen peroxide. Might be worth a shot.
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