[lbo-talk] Imperial Chickens Come Home to Roost

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Sat Nov 13 06:11:49 PST 2010


I might add to Miles's point that the concept of THE Work of Art is itself a fairly modern concept, not quite born yet in the early 185h-c.

Carreol

-----Original Message----- From: lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org [mailto:lbo-talk-bounces at lbo-talk.org] On Behalf Of Miles Jackson Sent: Friday, November 12, 2010 9:09 PM To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org Subject: Re: [lbo-talk] Imperial Chickens Come Home to Roost

Chuck Grimes wrote:
> Visual artists aren't trained to be writers or lecturers, so I don't
> really expect to get much enlightenment from them about the meaning of
> the work they produce... Miles
>
> ---------
>
> Well that is the prevaling ideology. But you see what that means in
> terms of art education, and the role of the arts in the intellectual
> life of a community. It means their disappearence and reduction of the
> arts as elements of life.
>

I'd say the prevailing ideology is that the Artist should be able to articulate the True Meaning of the Work. For me, this assumption reflects the capitalist concept of the person as an autonomous, personally responsible individual. However, no work of art is the isolated product of a single person; it is in fact the result of a complex constellation of social relations (Marx's cherry trees in German Ideology come to mind, if that reference helps). Thus it makes no sense to ask the artist what the work "means", because the work is a product of more than the artist's individual intent.

I'm not sure what any of this has to do with art education. I work with Art faculty at my community college, and I have observed no correlation between being a gifted artist and being a good art teacher. Helping people develop their artistic skills is one task; creating art is another. I agree wholeheartedly that an art teacher must be able to effectively communicate about art; I see no reason why an artist should.

Sure, an artist could take the time to develop the writing and presentation skills, but then they have less time to create art. I say: let the visual artists create art! There are plenty of other people who can provide the narrative.

I recognize that this requires us to give up the idea of the artist as the one true arbiter of what a work of art means, but as far as I'm concerned, the sooner we abandon that bulwark of capitalist ideology, the better.

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