[lbo-talk] Rough Trade Shops proves I'm no longer hip

Joel Schalit jschalit at gmail.com
Sat Nov 20 09:46:33 PST 2010


The Wire review makes a lot of sense. If you've followed Eno's pre-Warp releases of late, they've been absolutely terrible. While I haven't listened to the new record, artistically, it sounds like Eno has been stuck, for a very long time.

Joel

On Nov 20, 2010, at 6:11 PM, Jeffrey Fisher wrote:


> That's a pretty harsh judgment of Eno, and if he's right, it's really
> disappointing. But as Penman says, Eno has so many other things he's doing
> now that it maybe shouldn't be surprising if the music he's making isn't his
> best. But I need to listen to it.
>
> On the list itself, I've barely been listening to music recently
> (unfortunately -- and what I have has been a fair bit of classical, and
> older rock like pearl jam's album from several years ago), so out of that
> top 25, the only one I've listened to in its entirety is *Broken Bells*,
> which I absolutely love and recommend to everyone who will hear me. Don't
> judge it by the first single ("High Road"). IMHO (de gustibus and etc.). I
> completely missed that Dangermouse had another project this year (which
> checks into this list at 92), so I know to go listen that.
>
> On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:22 AM, Hein Marais <hein at marais.as> wrote:
>
>> Mike, saw Penman's skewering. Over the year's I've found his verdicts are
>> not off the mark too often, though I like and respect Eno enough to hope
>> he's wrong this time.
>>
>> Has anyone come across Bob L Sturm's "Music from the Ocean"? "Field
>> recordings", so to speak, generated with the data collected at offshore
>> buoys off the coast of California . None of the soothing, gurgling sounds
>> one hears on Attenborough's Blue Planet -- just these undulating electric
>> sheets of sound, a real sense of relentless immensity. You can read an
>> interview with Sturm here:
>> http://www.swanfungus.com/2009/06/interview-bob-l-sturm.html
>>
>> H
>>
>>
>> On 18 Nov 2010, at 10:18 AM, Mike Beggs wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 6:37 PM, Hein Marais <hein at marais.as> wrote:
>>>
>>> Talking of whom, one of the more better (and more interesting)
>>>> releases this year is Black Dog's Music for Real Airports, a reposte to
>>>> Eno's Music for Airports. You can read about it and hear snippets here:
>>>> http://www.musicforrealairports.com/live/
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for reminding me about this, I love old Black Dog and I had
>>> heard about 'Music for Real Airports' but it slipped my mind. Good
>>> stuff... I have to say though that it would be nice to live in a world
>>> where Eno's version would make sense in airports.
>>>
>>> Speaking of Eno, I just read a savage review of his new one in the
>>> Wire by Ian Penman:
>>>
>>> "This may be the first solo Eno work that is entirely without
>>> interest. It is bafflingly below par. Start with that wincingly twee
>>> title, so icky and precious it sounds like some high-scorn Young
>>> British Artist parody of a previous art era’s solipsistic formalism. I
>>> dunno really: what IS it? Eno’s idea of a joke? Some personal code or
>>> anagram? A joke about the dangers of self parody?... Mall Gift In Silk
>>> Wrapping doesn’t even have the virtue of being terrible, or boring. If
>>> it broached the sublime shadowlands of Boring it might not be so
>>> bad... Eno is not a dumb guy. Does he not know that, in 2010, the bar
>>> has been raised – in terms of both quantity and quality – as far as
>>> anything Ambient/Drone/Imaginary Soundtrack related goes? In other
>>> words, is it merely the result of myopic laziness, or of overly
>>> diversified priorities (in other words, straightforward CD-making
>>> isn’t what really interests or excites him any more)? Or is it
>>> something more on the level of a kind of politely veiled dishonesty –
>>> for if the real Eno were to really make music about his real thoughts
>>> and drives and emotions (an Eno who is, as we know, in real life, full
>>> of mischief, eros, humour, anger, politics, politicking, who is wide
>>> open to new sounds and musics) it would surely be a world or two
>>> removed from this... this... overly polite, formulaic, neat-freak
>>> suite of instrumental bits and pieces, things that appear to have no
>>> real need to exist."
>>>
>>> Joel, if that's your thing, seek out Chris Watson's work. You may
>>>> remember
>>>> him from Cabaret Voltaire in the early 1980s. My favourite of his is a
>>>> recording of glaciers shifting, which he turns into a troubling,
>>>> emotional
>>>> piece of work, believe it or not.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's Vatnajokull off Weather Report - I came across this recently
>>> too, as it happens, and I love it too. I hear he does the sound
>>> recording for David Attenborough.
>>>
>>> Mike Beggs
>>>
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