[lbo-talk] What is socialism?

c b cb31450 at gmail.com
Thu Oct 14 12:11:56 PDT 2010


While I get Marx's point that the proletarization of the working class can be a catalyst in creating an awareness of alienation and the desire to end it, I simply do not see why it is necessary to pit city against country and manufacturing work against agriculture.

Moreover, if white yuppies start to get into "artisanal" manual work, is that a bad thing. It seems to me that diginifing (non-alienated) manual work would be a real step forward.

Joanna

^^^^^^^ CB: I think Marx and Engels agree with not pitting the city against the country, but rather ending the ancient antagonism between them; and See numbers 1, 7, 8 and 9 below.

Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes. 2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. 3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. 5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. 6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State. 7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. 8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. 9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. 10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.



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