[lbo-talk] "Liberalism" - It's in the genes

Alan Rudy alan.rudy at gmail.com
Fri Oct 29 07:13:49 PDT 2010


Because genetic determinist sociobiology is horsepoop. Did you look Fowler up? He claims to have discovered three genes influence voting behavior (tying them to serotonin and dopamine systems), to have found that decisions to vote, egalitarianism, cooperation and altruism are heritable, and the social networks have meaningfully (if not totally) genetic foundations and that these genetically mediated networks can be used to forecast epidemics. This is an analysis of data from 2000 people a portion of which are indicated to have DRD4 genetic subtype and a portion of those are said to have lots of friends and the subset of the subset is then said to be more likely to vote for liberals - an transhistorical and unchanging category equal to the singular and monolithic Democratic Party agenda since we know that young Montana Blue Dogs are exactly like old Massachusetts homosexuals, much less Vermont ex-socialists and northern Ohio post-industrialists. Yeah, this is a BRILLIANT study, all of us should accept it at face value. Not a single variable could be dubiously operationalized in the slightest.

In re: the DRD4 gene: does the following suggest anything about how Fowler might be thinking about the "liberal" gene? From wikipedia - "As with other dopamine receptor <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_receptor> subtypes, the D4receptor is activated by the neurotransmitter <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotransmitter> dopamine<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine>. It is linked to many neurological and psychiatric conditions including schizophrenia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia>, Parkinsons disease <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinsons_disease>, bipolar disorder<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bipolar_disorder>, addictive behaviors including sex addiction<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_addiction>, and eating disorders <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_disorders> such as anorexia nervosa <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorexia_nervosa>, bulimia nervosa <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulimia_nervosa> and binge eating<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binge_eating>. It has also been linked with novelty seeking<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novelty_seeking>and liberalism <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism> [2]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine_receptor_D4#cite_note-drd4liberalism-1>. It is a target for drugs which treat schizophrenia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia>and Parkinson disease <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson_disease>."

Last, go here: http://www.world-science.net/ and tell me that the huge percentage of biologically determined social phenomena - plus the lack of an About Us or Who We Are page - doesn't raise flags.

If he were dead, Dick Lewontin'd be rolling over in his grave to see lefties embracing this pile of hooey.

On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:


> How can you be so sure that something does not exist?
>
> Wojtek
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Eubulides <autoplectic at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Wojtek S <wsoko52 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> This confirms my long held belief that a rational discussion between
> >> liberals and conservatives is pointless, because cognitive frames used
> >> to form each point of view (or "motivated cognition" in psychological
> >> parlance) are a priori determinants of how information is being
> >> processed - i.e. deciding what is relevant and what is not and how the
> >> relevant information is arranged and interpreted. Therefore, any
> >> information obtained in a discussion will be either deemed irrelevant
> >> by the other side or interpreted in a manner that is consistent with
> >> his own cognitive framework. This is especially true of conservatives
> >> who tend to be more cognitively rigid than liberals.
> >
> > ==============
> >
> > There are no a priori determinants of how information is processed.
> >
> > Ian
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