> What do Americans have to gain from socialism as a world system?
>
> ^^^^ CB: Reduce the military budget by 95%, close 100 military bases,
> get rid of nuclear weapons.
>
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> A higher standard of living. We're way more productive than ever
> before. We can't produce this higher standard of living now because
> capos can't sell the goods and services--'insufficient demand'.
> Besides, workers are organised/employed as a class of wage-slaves to
> do so many things which they only need to do in order to support
> bureaucracies and services which would be totally unnecessary in a
> system where goods and services were being produced for use and need
> in a classless society.
>
> The end of the relentless commodification of useful things,
> nature/natural wealth and social relations.
>
> Just for starters,
>
> Mike B)
>
> http://wobblytimes.blogspot.com/
>
> ^^^^^^^^
> CB: I agree with Mike . A _world_ socialist system would mean a
> socialist system in America, with all the benefits of a _"domestic"_
> socialist system ( but with national borders beginning to whither away
> , so "domestic" would become an obsolete term)
>
But Americans and other G8 citizens, including low-skill laborers with no capital, live much better than the rest of the world; indeed, much better than everyone could live at, given the current physical limits of the world economy. They appear to be doing quite well by the current system, which, I'd hazard to guess, is why they so universally support it.
Or is world socialism a system under which nations have withered away, but in which the descendants of certain nations continue to consume all the resources? What does imperialism need a police force for, then?