[lbo-talk] Fidel on dolphins & the Cuban model

c b cb31450 at gmail.com
Tue Sep 14 12:27:58 PDT 2010


Matthias Wasser

But Americans and other G8 citizens, including low-skill laborers with no capital, live much better than the rest of the world; indeed, much better than everyone could live at, given the current physical limits of the world economy. They appear to be doing quite well by the current system, which, I'd hazard to guess, is why they so universally support it.

^^^^^^^ CB: Yeah, I thought you were sort of going here. I don't claim that Americans subjectively realize that World Peace or the things Mike B. mentioned are in their objective best or optimum interest, but they are. For one thing, the current material superiority and high living standard will not last forever. Also, humans won't stand to be oppressed and exploited forever. Somewhere deep down , Americans know their fear of Islam is rooted in the wrongs Americans and Europeans have committed in imperialism and colonialism.

Obviously, you are correct. We are not headed to world communism, because Americans and Europeans are selfish , and aren't about to give up their material superiority, despite the fact that they got that superiority through world conquest. The 100 plus US military bases around the world are not unrelated to the superior US living standards.

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Or is world socialism a system under which nations have withered away, but in which the descendants of certain nations continue to consume all the resources?

^^^^^ CB: I'd say no , that wouldn't be world socialism.

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What does imperialism need a police force for, then?

^^^^^^^ CB: It does need one.



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