MB: As I said before, socialism is the common ownership and management of the collective product of labour. However, most people have been taught to believe that socialism means mass poverty and a lack of liberty. Of course, most people don't want to sacrifice their standard of living and their liberty.
Remembering that Marx used socialism and communism as interchangeable terms, here' Zinn's version of Marx explaining that the 20th Century dicatatorships of Marxist-Leninists was NOT communism:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS9ohPSFxSA&feature=player_embedded
Socialism is means the abolition of wage-labour and distribution of common product of labour on the basis of hours put in to the social store of goods and services by a free association of producers. Just because that was never how the socialism of the Marxist-Leninists was constructed and organised doesn't mean that the suggestions Marx made are unfathomable abstractions.
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