Is it any lower in Germany?
Wojtek
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Angelus Novus
<fuerdenkommunismus at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Max Sawicky wrote:
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>> My numbers and cite were for social spending.
>
> Yes, but social spending is a very broad term, and much of what is statistically
> counted as social spending in Germany is not assistance for the poor.
>
> For example, so-called "Elterngeld" ("parental money"). This was created by the
> previous government (CDU-SPD) and was the pet project of then family minister,
> now labour minister Ursula von der Leyen. It replaced an older program called
> "Erziehungsgeld" ("child rearing money"). The innovation with "Elterngeld" was
> that it was specifically targeted to encourage upper class and upper
> middle-class women to have more babies, to counter the supposed demographic
> decline of ethnic Germans. It is supposed to encourage these women to take a
> period of pause from high powered careers in order to reproduce the higher
> social classes.
>
> Because it was replacing Erziehungsgeld, Elterngeld was also payed to poor
> people. If you were a Hartz IV recipient, you got 300 Euro Elterngeld not
> calculated against your Hartz IV.
>
> Now, as part of the austerity packet of the current government, Elterngeld for
> Hartz IV recipients is going to be abolished. With the justification, of
> course, that people who don't work shouldn't be offered extra financial
> incentive to have children. The original intent, you recall, was to encourage
> rich women to have more kids. The problem, of course, is that Elterngeld is not
> just paid to rich career women, but also to rich housewives who have also never
> worked a day in their lives.
>
> So in effect, a subsidy for rich women to bear more children is "social
> spending", statistically speaking.
>
> That should illustrate sufficiently, I think, how much caution to exercise when
> talking about "social spending" in Germany as a broad category.
>
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